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Trigger Expander and clock divisions - theotteryears - 11-23-2019
Hi,
Are you able to get different clock divisions on each track of the expander or do all 16 outputs use the same track clock division? Can i set the clock divider for the expander track to *6?
I was hoping to use this as the hub to clock all of my other sequencers from.
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - XORadmin - 11-23-2019
(11-23-2019, 09:54 AM)theotteryears Wrote: Hi,
Are you able to get different clock divisions on each track of the expander or do all 16 outputs use the same track clock division? Can i set the clock divider for the expander track to *6?
I was hoping to use this as the hub to clock all of my other sequencers from.
Yes, you can set all 6 tracks to different clock divisions ( actually *6 is a multiplier and not a divider
).You have different options to create dividers and multipliers, even from only one track.
For example, if you use the binary FX command (in this case the LOW one for the lowest 8 Trigger outputs). Changing the number on every row:
TRBL 001
TRBL 002
TRBL 003
TRBL 004
TRBL 005
...
Will create a nice clock divider, on each output another one. Combined with multipliers or dividers or different groove settings, you can create loads of different dividers/multipliers.
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - theotteryears - 11-23-2019
(11-23-2019, 11:12 AM)XORadmin Wrote:(11-23-2019, 09:54 AM)theotteryears Wrote: Hi,
Are you able to get different clock divisions on each track of the expander or do all 16 outputs use the same track clock division? Can i set the clock divider for the expander track to *6?
I was hoping to use this as the hub to clock all of my other sequencers from.
Yes, you can set all 6 tracks to different clock divisions ( actually *6 is a multiplier and not a divider
You have different options to create dividers and multipliers, even from only one track.
For example, if you use the binary FX command (in this case the LOW one for the lowest 8 Trigger outputs). Changing the number on every row:
TRBL 001
TRBL 002
TRBL 003
TRBL 004
TRBL 005
...
Will create a nice clock divider, on each output another one. Combined with multipliers or dividers or different groove settings, you can create loads of different dividers/multipliers.
so every output of the trigger expander can be anything i want? so *6 on trigger expander output 1... /2 on trigger expander output 2 etc etc?
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - XORadmin - 11-23-2019
(11-23-2019, 12:03 PM)theotteryears Wrote:(11-23-2019, 11:12 AM)XORadmin Wrote:(11-23-2019, 09:54 AM)theotteryears Wrote: Hi,
Are you able to get different clock divisions on each track of the expander or do all 16 outputs use the same track clock division? Can i set the clock divider for the expander track to *6?
I was hoping to use this as the hub to clock all of my other sequencers from.
Yes, you can set all 6 tracks to different clock divisions ( actually *6 is a multiplier and not a divider
You have different options to create dividers and multipliers, even from only one track.
For example, if you use the binary FX command (in this case the LOW one for the lowest 8 Trigger outputs). Changing the number on every row:
TRBL 001
TRBL 002
TRBL 003
TRBL 004
TRBL 005
...
Will create a nice clock divider, on each output another one. Combined with multipliers or dividers or different groove settings, you can create loads of different dividers/multipliers.
so every output of the trigger expander can be anything i want? so *6 on trigger expander output 1... /2 on trigger expander output 2 etc etc?
Not anything...no more multiplying than *8 is possible. But for the rest..it's all up to your smart programming.
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - theotteryears - 12-07-2019
Hey Thomas,
When I wrote on another topic about the slight delay between triggers coming out of the outputs, you said that is unavoidable and to use resets on a track output above the output I use for the clock.
I just want to know if the trigger expander also has this issue? So I’d have to use higher outputs for my resets. I was going to replace sending triggers/clock outputs from my DAW as audio like I’m doing at the moment, with sending them from the expander.
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - XORadmin - 12-07-2019
(12-07-2019, 10:47 PM)theotteryears Wrote: Hey Thomas,
When I wrote on another topic about the slight delay between triggers coming out of the outputs, you said that is unavoidable and to use resets on a track output above the output I use for the clock.
I just want to know if the trigger expander also has this issue? So I’d have to use higher outputs for my resets. I was going to replace sending triggers/clock outputs from my DAW as audio like I’m doing at the moment, with sending them from the expander.
Hey, i am not aware of a delay in the trigger outputs? I am not sure what you are talking about at the moment.
The local triggers are somewhere in the microsecond range from each other...and when you talk about a DAW you talk about millsecond range...
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - theotteryears - 12-07-2019
If I clock my sequencer from output 1 and send a reset on output 2 sometimes the sequencer doesn’t reset properly. You suggested I swap the output over and this worked- sending the reset on output 1 and clock on output 2.
I just wondered if this would apply to the expander too.
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - XORadmin - 12-08-2019
Just to clarify: The trigger outputs don't have a delay issue. Also in general this is not a NerdSEQ issue.
As it is software there have always to be a order and in the case of the NerdSEQ it is Track 1 to 8 and so the triggers will always happen in a order and in fact, you most probably can't measure any difference.
The trigger expander works of course in the same way as it is also software, so the Triggers are handled from 1 -> 16.
So the fact that there is a order is a good one, because you can use the knowledge to do things like you do. If they would be exactly at the same time then your device would most probably work sometimes well and sometimes not.
It's actually different from hardware where you can never predict any order (except for if the hardware is designed to have a specific order). Here the order depends on component tolerances, temperature etc.
RE: Trigger Expander and clock divisions - theotteryears - 12-08-2019
Ok great! Thanks all I needed to know
Using the resets on the first few outputs works well. I just need more trigger outs and so will get the expander ASAP.