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Quarter note triplets
#1
Hello all,

Still wrapping my head around the NerdSEQ, but I an absolutely in love with it. I've been sequencing some of my favorite 8-bit era video game tunes for practice and ran into some quarter note triplets.

I have nosed around in the manual and through the videos I could find, but still don't understand how to sequence quarter note triplets. I assume it has to do with the Groove column, but I am struggling working out what the column should look like, and if it is possible to do while maintaining the 4 bar (64 step) pattern length. 

I appreciate any advice or guidance you more experienced noodlers might be able to share.

Thanks!
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#2
(03-17-2021, 04:15 PM)FiFitheGreater Wrote: Hello all,

Still wrapping my head around the NerdSEQ, but I an absolutely in love with it. I've been sequencing some of my favorite 8-bit era video game tunes for practice and ran into some quarter note triplets.

I have nosed around in the manual and through the videos I could find, but still don't understand how to sequence quarter note triplets. I assume it has to do with the Groove column, but I am struggling working out what the column should look like, and if it is possible to do while maintaining the 4 bar (64 step) pattern length. 

I appreciate any advice or guidance you more experienced noodlers might be able to share.

Thanks!

You do use the tables at best for it.

Set it to the triplet preset (shift+nerd in the table -> Preset. Change that to triplet and press OK to take it over).
And the triplet/ratchet is now set to 1 step = quarter note.  For  half a note you set the speed to 2, for a full note, you set the speed to 4.
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#3
(03-17-2021, 04:22 PM)XORadmin Wrote:
(03-17-2021, 04:15 PM)FiFitheGreater Wrote: Hello all,

Still wrapping my head around the NerdSEQ, but I an absolutely in love with it. I've been sequencing some of my favorite 8-bit era video game tunes for practice and ran into some quarter note triplets.

I have nosed around in the manual and through the videos I could find, but still don't understand how to sequence quarter note triplets. I assume it has to do with the Groove column, but I am struggling working out what the column should look like, and if it is possible to do while maintaining the 4 bar (64 step) pattern length. 

I appreciate any advice or guidance you more experienced noodlers might be able to share.

Thanks!

You do use the tables at best for it.

Set it to the triplet preset (shift+nerd in the table -> Preset. Change that to triplet and press OK to take it over).
And the triplet/ratchet is now set to 1 step = quarter note.  For  half a note you set the speed to 2, for a full note, you set the speed to 4.

Awesome! Thank you for the amazingly fast reaponse.
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#4
It immediately wipes whatever was in the table of course ;-) Cuz... it's a preset obviously :-)
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#5
(03-17-2021, 04:22 PM)XORadmin Wrote:
(03-17-2021, 04:15 PM)FiFitheGreater Wrote: Hello all,

Still wrapping my head around the NerdSEQ, but I an absolutely in love with it. I've been sequencing some of my favorite 8-bit era video game tunes for practice and ran into some quarter note triplets.

I have nosed around in the manual and through the videos I could find, but still don't understand how to sequence quarter note triplets. I assume it has to do with the Groove column, but I am struggling working out what the column should look like, and if it is possible to do while maintaining the 4 bar (64 step) pattern length. 

I appreciate any advice or guidance you more experienced noodlers might be able to share.

Thanks!

You do use the tables at best for it.

Set it to the triplet preset (shift+nerd in the table -> Preset. Change that to triplet and press OK to take it over).
And the triplet/ratchet is now set to 1 step = quarter note.  For  half a note you set the speed to 2, for a full note, you set the speed to 4.

I would like to do this, but with midi channels and most importantly for the trigger channels, as I use triggers for drums.
Which is of course the most important aspect for groove. So triplets on the drums is a must.
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#6
To do triplets (or quintuplets or septuplets) on non local tracks (aka tracks types w/o tables like Audio, MIDI, CV16 or Trigger16) I see two ways:
- play with the groove, i.e change it from 6 to e.g. 2 for your triplets
- make use of CBPB, especially the 1XX version and the *3 (*5, *7) and to some extend /3 (/5, /7) depending on type of tuplet you wish to create.

!!! Caveat !!!
However you need to be aware that both of these methods have the potential to change the length of your pattern in time in relation to other patterns w/o this manipulation. Special care needs to be applied to prevent other parallel segments to stay in sync.

Some examples:
[changing groove and leaving tempo unchanged]
C-2 8
C-2 8
C-2 8

[changing tempo and leaving groove unchanged]
C-2 CBPB 10D
--
--
--
C-2 CBPB 10D
--
--
--
C-2 CBPB 10D
--
--
--
[something else] CBPB 109

both create one 8th triplet (aka 3 notes spanning a quaver). The first examples spans the space of 3 16th notes and the second examples spans the "space" of 3 quaver.

What you like better depends on what you like to do.

Whatever you do here requires careful construction and likely changing the length of some of the patterns involved if you wish to keep your patterns in sync.

In other words:
Possible but you need to be careful about timing.

Feel free to ask more specific questions in case the above is not clear.

Kind regards,
Michael
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#7
(11-10-2022, 07:56 PM)mgd Wrote: To do triplets (or quintuplets or septuplets) on non local tracks (aka tracks types w/o tables like Audio, MIDI, CV16 or Trigger16) I see two ways:
- play with the groove, i.e change it from 6 to e.g. 2 for your triplets
- make use of CBPB, especially the 1XX version and the *3 (*5, *7) and to some extend /3 (/5, /7) depending on type of tuplet you wish to create.

!!! Caveat !!!
However you need to be aware that both of these methods have the potential to change the length of your pattern in time in relation to other patterns w/o this manipulation. Special care needs to be applied to prevent other parallel segments to stay in sync.

Some examples:
[changing groove and leaving tempo unchanged]
C-2     8
C-2     8
C-2     8

[changing tempo and leaving groove unchanged]
C-2       CBPB 10D
--
--
--
C-2       CBPB 10D
--
--
--
C-2       CBPB 10D
--
--
--
[something else] CBPB 109

both create one 8th triplet (aka 3 notes spanning a quaver). The first examples spans the space of 3 16th notes and the second examples spans the "space" of 3 quaver.

What you like better depends on what you like to do.

Whatever you do here requires careful construction and likely changing the length of some of the patterns involved if you wish to keep your patterns in sync.

In other words:
Possible but you need to be careful about timing.

Feel free to ask more specific questions in case the above is not clear.

Kind regards,
Michael

Thanks for your guide, I will look into it. 

However I feel this is not a workable solution. It is far too unintuitive and prone to errors for users to be expected to do this.

Your first "groove" technique seems the most doable, I will have a go at that, thanks for your examples as they help illustrate what needs to be done.
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