Mute/Unmute tracks via fx command

[mkl171]

Hi, the idea is to enable mute/unmute tracks 1-8 via fx command, so we could have - for example - a "master" track (or pattern) from where we could mute and unmute the other tracks per its step.
Cheers!

[mgd]

Hi, the idea is to enable mute/unmute tracks 1-8 via fx command, so we could have - for example - a "master" track (or pattern) from where we could mute and unmute the other tracks per its step.
Cheers!

Just for me to understand the use case:
Currently we can start/stop tracks via FX and if you do volume control via MOD or through some CV16 channel you can simply set those values to 0.

Also:
Since you want to do it via FX you know up front where you want tracks silent and where not. Why not create copies of the patterns that shall sound and add empty patterns on the tracks that shall be silent?

What do you want to do that can't be done with one of the above?

Kind regards,
Michael

[mkl171]

Hi, the idea is to enable mute/unmute tracks 1-8 via fx command, so we could have - for example - a "master" track (or pattern) from where we could mute and unmute the other tracks per its step.
Cheers!

Just for me to understand the use case:
Currently we can start/stop tracks via FX and if you do volume control via MOD or through some CV16 channel you can simply set those values to 0.

Also:
Since you want to do it via FX you know up front where you want tracks silent and where not. Why not create copies of the patterns that shall sound and add empty patterns on the tracks that shall be silent?

What do you want to do that can't be done with one of the above?

Kind regards,
Michael

Hi Michael! Michael here as well :)

Currently we can start/stop tracks via FX

Yes, I am aware of that, yet those commands pertain to the given tracks. I can't stop/start Track 1 using the fx from the Track 2, can I? Also that's not what I am after. I need mutes, not start/stops.

and if you do volume control via MOD or through some CV16 channel you can simply set those values to 0.

Unfortunately my system doesn't allow for volume control per track. 

Since you want to do it via FX you know up front where you want tracks silent and where not.

That's precisely is where I am coming from! I know that up front indeed!

Why not create copies of the patterns that shall sound and add empty patterns on the tracks that shall be silent?

With different pattern lengths on different tracks it starts getting out of hand really quick. 

My use case is: I'm creating a couple of nice rolling patterns of different lengths on modular Tracks 1 - 4. On tracks 5 & 6 (more triggers 16) I'm having drum patterns and clocks. On tracks 7 - 8 (more cv 16) I have voltages controlling the parameters / behaviours of modules controlled by tracks 1 - 6. Thus, even when I have just one pattern per track 1 - 6, I can alter the sound dramatically by cvs from tracks 7 - 8. Moreover, one of those more cv tracks has such a step length and clock divide so its one step matches up to 64 steps of the other (default clocked) patterns. Thus I can call this pattern a "master" pattern from where I control all the meta layer, like dry/wet params, audio beat repeats, effexts' modes and so on. All that is cool and dandy, just mute/unmute tracks fx seems to be missing from that picture, and that's the origin of my feature request idea.

Kind regards,
Mike

[mgd]

Currently we can start/stop tracks via FX

Yes, I am aware of that, yet those commands pertain to the given tracks. I can't stop/start Track 1 using the fx from the Track 2, can I? Also that's not what I am after. I need mutes, not start/stops.

STSP TRR with T denoting the track (0 == all) and RR denoting the sequencer row you can start any given pattern from any track. See the manual page 34.

Why not create copies of the patterns that shall sound and add empty patterns on the tracks that shall be silent?

With different pattern lengths on different tracks it starts getting out of hand really quick. 
My use case is: I'm creating a couple of nice rolling patterns of different lengths on modular Tracks 1 - 4. On tracks 5 & 6 (more triggers 16) I'm having drum patterns and clocks. On tracks 7 - 8 (more cv 16) I have voltages controlling the parameters / behaviours of modules controlled by tracks 1 - 6. Thus, even when I have just one pattern per track 1 - 6, I can alter the sound dramatically by cvs from tracks 7 - 8. Moreover, one of those more cv tracks has such a step length and clock divide so its one step matches up to 64 steps of the other (default clocked) patterns. Thus I can call this pattern a "master" pattern from where I control all the meta layer, like dry/wet params, audio beat repeats, effexts' modes and so on. All that is cool and dandy, just mute/unmute tracks fx seems to be missing from that picture, and that's the origin of my feature request idea.
Kind regards,
Mike

Hmm.

In my experience having pattern with arbitrary lengths in parallel is asking for trouble. I therefor always try to have them the same length in each row, even if that means I've got to split up musical phrases and distribute them across 2 or 3 consecutive pattern. It also helps me keeping track of things [as otherwise I quickly loose where I am on which track].

Adding color to blocks helps as well with keeping things visually organized.

But that's my way of dealing with this.

Kind regards,
Michael

[mkl171]

Currently we can start/stop tracks via FX

Yes, I am aware of that, yet those commands pertain to the given tracks. I can't stop/start Track 1 using the fx from the Track 2, can I? Also that's not what I am after. I need mutes, not start/stops.

STSP TRR with T denoting the track (0 == all) and RR denoting the sequencer row you can start any given pattern from any track. See the manual page 34.

Thank you Michael for reminding me about STSP TRR! That might be partial workaround to my problem, yet applicable only to "start" function.
As I understand I can stop a pattern only from within that pattern, using BRK right?

Cheers,
~m

[mgd]

STSP TRR with T denoting the track (0 == all) and RR denoting the sequencer row you can start any given pattern from any track. See the manual page 34.

Thank you Michael for reminding me about STSP TRR! That might be partial workaround to my problem, yet applicable only to "start" function.
As I understand I can stop a pattern only from within that pattern, using BRK right?

I had thought there's a stop pattern/track from arbitrary tracks but it seems all there is is SPFX. (page35/36)

Might be a feature request to extend SPFX such that the first digit would select a track. Looks like a low hanging fruit

Kind regards,
Michael

[mkl171]

STSP TRR with T denoting the track (0 == all) and RR denoting the sequencer row you can start any given pattern from any track. See the manual page 34.

Thank you Michael for reminding me about STSP TRR! That might be partial workaround to my problem, yet applicable only to "start" function.
As I understand I can stop a pattern only from within that pattern, using BRK right?

I had thought there's a stop pattern/track from arbitrary tracks but it seems all there is is SPFX. (page35/36)

Might be a feature request to extend SPFX such that the first digit would select a track. Looks like a low hanging fruit

Kind regards,
Michael

Absolutely! And I'd love that fruit
Should I rename this thread, so it stays in the picture?