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#1
I have Nerdseq and CV16 setup with a Piston Honda MK 3, Plaits, and Rings, and a couple filters. What I’d like to do control as many parameters as I can from a single pattern. 

Currently I’m setup like this:

1. V-Oct VCO 1, _, VCA 1
2. VCF 1, _, Wave shape 1
3. V-Oct VCO 2, _, VCA 2
4. VCF 2, _, Wave shape 2

I need the first 4 channels to control the voices. The triggers here are used for anything, except triggering the Nerdseq internal envelope. I’d like to get some more use out of these. 

My plan is to use channels 5 and 6 to control Plaits and Rings.

My question is, is that efficient? Am I getting the most out of this? I’d like to be setup to program some songs without having to re-patch anything.
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#2
(08-06-2024, 02:48 AM)soggybag Wrote: I have Nerdseq and CV16 setup with a Piston Honda MK 3, Plaits, and Rings, and a couple filters. What I’d like to do control as many parameters as I can from a single pattern. 

Currently I’m setup like this:

1. V-Oct VCO 1, _, VCA 1
2. VCF 1, _, Wave shape 1
3. V-Oct VCO 2, _, VCA 2
4. VCF 2, _, Wave shape 2

I need the first 4 channels to control the voices. The triggers here are used for anything, except triggering the Nerdseq internal envelope. I’d like to get some more use out of these. 

My plan is to use channels 5 and 6 to control Plaits and Rings.

My question is, is that efficient? Am I getting the most out of this? I’d like to be setup to program some songs without having to re-patch anything.

Define efficient!

It really is not possible to answer that question for anyone but yourself.

However if you want more (or lots) of CV to control and modulate stuff then possibly adding a CV16 NSA (I think the official name is "More CV 16") to your setup is the way to go. Depending on how you use it that will allow for 16 independent CV outs controlled from one or at most two tracks (by means of 6 lanes and 3 FX as well as the 8 LFOs - of course you can use more tracks if you wish to).

If you are heavily into Triggers than the Trigger 16 expander might be interesting as well.

HTH,
Michael
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#3
(08-06-2024, 08:08 AM)mgd Wrote:
(08-06-2024, 02:48 AM)soggybag Wrote: I have Nerdseq and CV16 setup with a Piston Honda MK 3, Plaits, and Rings, and a couple filters. What I’d like to do control as many parameters as I can from a single pattern. 

Currently I’m setup like this:

1. V-Oct VCO 1, _, VCA 1
2. VCF 1, _, Wave shape 1
3. V-Oct VCO 2, _, VCA 2
4. VCF 2, _, Wave shape 2

I need the first 4 channels to control the voices. The triggers here are used for anything, except triggering the Nerdseq internal envelope. I’d like to get some more use out of these. 

My plan is to use channels 5 and 6 to control Plaits and Rings.

My question is, is that efficient? Am I getting the most out of this? I’d like to be setup to program some songs without having to re-patch anything.

Define efficient!

It really is not possible to answer that question for anyone but yourself.

However if you want more (or lots) of CV to control and modulate stuff then possibly adding a CV16 NSA (I think the official name is "More CV 16") to your setup is the way to go. Depending on how you use it that will allow for 16 independent CV outs controlled from one or at most two tracks (by means of 6 lanes and 3 FX as well as the 8 LFOs - of course you can use more tracks if you wish to).

If you are heavily into Triggers than the Trigger 16 expander might be interesting as well.

HTH,
Michael

Yeah I think he got the CV16 already.

I would concentrate to have 1 instrument per track and that is easily possible using the CV16.
So to combine 1+2 (VCO1,VCA1,VCF1,waveshape1) to one CV16 track. You still would have 2 columns left which you could use for more modulations. And if that is not enough then involve more outputs using the patches or the FX. Pimp it up using modulations for the vcf or waveshape. 
The Trigger or gate for the VCA can also be generated in multiple ways. From triggers or gates from the local outputs  to triggers/gates or envelopes from the CV16 outputs.
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#4
Thanks for the input!

I set up CV16 on channels 5 and 6. With channel 5 out to CV16 1-8, and channel 6 out to CV16 9-16. Channel 5 controls Plaits, and channel 6 controls Rings.

I set channel 7 up as midi and send that to Bitbox.

Channel 1 and 2 have 4 CV each to control the two oscillators on PH. These come from CV and Mod outs for channels 1 and 2, and channels 3 and 4.

I’m not using the gates on channels 1-4. I couldn’t figure about a way to repurpose these. It seems like I need the gate to trigger the envelopes which are output at the CV and Mod jacks, even if the gate at the jacks aren’t used.

It would useful if you could output an envelope from a trigger jack.

I still have channel 8 left over.
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#5
(08-06-2024, 10:36 PM)soggybag Wrote: Thanks for the input!

I set up CV16 on channels 5 and 6. With channel 5 out to CV16 1-8, and channel 6 out to CV16 9-16. Channel 5 controls Plaits, and channel 6 controls Rings.

I set channel 7 up as midi and send that to Bitbox.

Channel 1 and 2 have 4 CV each to control the two oscillators on PH. These come from CV and Mod outs for channels 1 and 2, and channels 3 and 4.

I’m not using the gates on channels 1-4. I couldn’t figure about a way to repurpose these. It seems like I need the gate to trigger the envelopes which are output at the CV and Mod jacks, even if the gate at the jacks aren’t used.

It would useful if you could output an envelope from a trigger jack.

I still have channel 8 left over.

Do you use 8 cv outputs for the plaits and also 8 CV outputs to control the rings? All CV16 outputs are used?
Envelopes can also be triggered in other ways. FX, Mapping, External…
Trigger outputs are 0/5 Volt by hardware design. And still if you are not using them from the local track, they can be used from all tracks, automators, mappings etc. One of the basic functions ;-) 

I always get confused and think what does Midi have to do with is as you use ,channel‘ for different things. It’s tracks and columns mainly. Only Midi and the NSA use channels (while for the NSA it is a hardware channel).
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#6
Currently I’m using a 5 cv for Rings and Plaits from CV16. So there are a couple CV left over.

I haven’t really used FX or Mapping yet, I’ll have to explore that!

My goal is to set up a system where I could reproduce some songs by loading a project on the Nerdseq, without having to repatch anything.
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