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random bpm
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(10-29-2025, 10:32 AM)XORadmin Wrote:
(10-29-2025, 10:28 AM)joesh Wrote:
(10-25-2025, 03:57 PM)XORadmin Wrote: Yes!

Okay, tried it and it's perfect. 

Next problem (no laughing), how can I stop it and go back to the original tempo(s)? I tried using Special FX commands but couldn't find one that cancelled out (overrides) the FX command in track setup. Maybe you have a suggestion on how I can go between the settings?

The effect using the random values is perfect, but it's a shame I can't switch them off/on.

You can use another pattern which doesn't got the bpm FX but use the bpm fx in another fx column. There is no command to change/turn the random FX on/off.

Another possibility would be to use the automators instead of the random FX. The difference is that you can turn the automator (LFO) off. Use a noise LFO there and change the range/offset/amplitude to your needs and as destination FX overrule.

That's a good idea (automators), I hadn't thought of that, thanks.
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#12
(10-29-2025, 11:02 AM)joesh Wrote:
(10-29-2025, 10:32 AM)XORadmin Wrote:
(10-29-2025, 10:28 AM)joesh Wrote:
(10-25-2025, 03:57 PM)XORadmin Wrote: Yes!

Okay, tried it and it's perfect. 

Next problem (no laughing), how can I stop it and go back to the original tempo(s)? I tried using Special FX commands but couldn't find one that cancelled out (overrides) the FX command in track setup. Maybe you have a suggestion on how I can go between the settings?

The effect using the random values is perfect, but it's a shame I can't switch them off/on.

You can use another pattern which doesn't got the bpm FX but use the bpm fx in another fx column. There is no command to change/turn the random FX on/off.

Another possibility would be to use the automators instead of the random FX. The difference is that you can turn the automator (LFO) off. Use a noise LFO there and change the range/offset/amplitude to your needs and as destination FX overrule.

That's a good idea (automators), I hadn't thought of that, thanks.

By the way, something I don't understand is that in the Automator section, 04 is override the FX1-4. However, when I try switching on the automator it doesn't seem to override the FX1-4, or not that I notice. 

The LFO idea works fine by itself though (which I think is what you suggested).
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#13
(10-29-2025, 12:36 PM)joesh Wrote:
(10-29-2025, 11:02 AM)joesh Wrote:
(10-29-2025, 10:32 AM)XORadmin Wrote:
(10-29-2025, 10:28 AM)joesh Wrote:
(10-25-2025, 03:57 PM)XORadmin Wrote: Yes!

Okay, tried it and it's perfect. 

Next problem (no laughing), how can I stop it and go back to the original tempo(s)? I tried using Special FX commands but couldn't find one that cancelled out (overrides) the FX command in track setup. Maybe you have a suggestion on how I can go between the settings?

The effect using the random values is perfect, but it's a shame I can't switch them off/on.

You can use another pattern which doesn't got the bpm FX but use the bpm fx in another fx column. There is no command to change/turn the random FX on/off.

Another possibility would be to use the automators instead of the random FX. The difference is that you can turn the automator (LFO) off. Use a noise LFO there and change the range/offset/amplitude to your needs and as destination FX overrule.

That's a good idea (automators), I hadn't thought of that, thanks.

By the way, something I don't understand is that in the Automator section, 04 is override the FX1-4. However, when I try switching on the automator it doesn't seem to override the FX1-4, or not that I notice. 

The LFO idea works fine by itself though (which I think is what you suggested).

Yes, changing LFO values do overrule the next appearing FX. I just tested it and it works as advertised....Maybe you didn't set your random LFO speed high enough?
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#14
Okay, that might be the problem, I'll try with higher values (in the LFO). However, I think the best way to change values is by simply going to track setup and and cancelling the FX1-4. It works immediately and you can just set it off again when needed, it's a bit clumsy, but it works.

To be honest, I'd hoped that you could use the Automator setting by putting the LFO at zero speed and amplitude, simply cancelling out the FX1-4 in the setup screen, if that makes sense.
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#15
(10-29-2025, 02:33 PM)joesh Wrote: Okay, that might be the problem, I'll try with higher values (in the LFO). However, I think the best way to change values is by simply going to track setup and and cancelling the FX1-4. It works immediately and you can just set it off again when needed, it's a bit clumsy, but it works.

To be honest, I'd hoped that you could use the Automator setting by putting the LFO at zero speed and amplitude, simply cancelling out the FX1-4 in the setup screen, if that makes sense.

The automators can be enabled/disabled using any possible internal or external event.

Just as a simple example for the mappings: I create a simple shortcut which toggles the enable and disable (start) of Automator LFO 0 when pressing SHIFT+UP

Code:
00 EXT BUTN UP                          checks if button UP is pressed (UP, not cursor up) (result is 1 or 0)
01 EXT BUTN SHFT                        checks if button SHIFT is pressed   (result is 1 or 0)
02 CALC LAND 0001                       Logical AND between row 00 (UP) and row 01 (SHIFT), results in 1 if both are pressed else 0
03 CALC FLG^ 02=1  >  AUTM SLT0 STRT    This toggles the destination each time row 02 changes from 0 to 1   Destination is LFO0 start

Other button combos are possible of course. You just got to keep in mind that the buttons do still their usual work.
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