Dynamically looping sections

[sak-rwsd]

Hi,

I’m wondering what the most efficient way is to loop sections (i.e. the entire row, multiple rows).  I’ll be playing a live gig in a few weeks and would like to loop sections, mute certain tracks and create space for a live horn player to improvise over my modular composition, and then once the flow feels complete, to drop back into the remainder of the composition.  

It would be nice to do it on the fly, though it would also work to have it planned out and something I could somehow toggle on and off.  I tried the CBPB and row jump and it didn’t quite do what I was hoping.  I was previously using STSP for individual tracks, but now realize that I can do it for the whole row.  That might work, to enter it and then delete it.  Seems a bit cumbersome.  I’d love to control it with CV or a switch, to make it more tactile.

Is there another way, short of entering STSP and then deleting it.  With Ableton, I can just move the loop brace around and turn loop on and off, which I can assign to my MIDI controller.

Thanks,

SAK

[mgd]

AFAIA there's no easy "on the fly" way to do it. However if you can plan the number of loops up front you could try to apply the control track pattern (see Tips & Tricks) https://forum.xor.eu/showthread.php?tid=1307

[theotteryears]

Hi,

I’m wondering what the most efficient way is to loop sections (i.e. the entire row, multiple rows).  I’ll be playing a live gig in a few weeks and would like to loop sections, mute certain tracks and create space for a live horn player to improvise over my modular composition, and then once the flow feels complete, to drop back into the remainder of the composition.  

It would be nice to do it on the fly, though it would also work to have it planned out and something I could somehow toggle on and off.  I tried the CBPB and row jump and it didn’t quite do what I was hoping.  I was previously using STSP for individual tracks, but now realize that I can do it for the whole row.  That might work, to enter it and then delete it.  Seems a bit cumbersome.  I’d love to control it with CV or a switch, to make it more tactile.

Is there another way, short of entering STSP and then deleting it.  With Ableton, I can just move the loop brace around and turn loop on and off, which I can assign to my MIDI controller.

Thanks,

SAK

i may be missing the point, but surely just using the island functionality for entire rows/multiple rows, and then using shift+ok to start a new island does this right?

that's how i live improv sections anyway...

[mgd]

If I understand the OP correctly he wants -in a live situation- say something like "now this island 3 times and then that island 5 times" and those 3 and 5 times should be settable on the fly.

I know of no easy way to do it on the fly but if you know such things up front you can program the repeats as I suggested in my last post in this thread.

[theotteryears]

but isn't that exactly what you can do with the islands and then manually just starting a different island when you feel like it?

sorry - maybe i'm totally misunderstanding!

[mgd]

but isn't that exactly what you can do with the islands and then manually just starting a different island when you feel like it?

sorry - maybe i'm totally misunderstanding!

Doing it manually IMO is pretty close to it. If I understand it correctly he wants something like
3x island A, then 2x island B and then 5x island C
...
and next time around he wants to say
4x island A, island B and 3x island C
and that should happen w/o him having to manually do every switch and count the repetitions etc.

I can see that this ability might simplify performance in a live situation since you probably have enough to deal with already. I'm not sure I find this a huge problem in reality though. As you said, you can do it (almost) like that manually as it is. But me (and you) not thinking it is a problem does not invalidate the OP's request

[theotteryears]

haha very true!

personally i do it manually and never found a problem with not having enough time, but if that is an issue then your method for a control track is a good one (and also one i use a lot!)