I've just received my Nerdseq with cv16 expander. Just spend a few hours figuring how it works... that's really overwhelming, but I can see all the possibilities and that's amazing.
I've got a track configured with cv16 expander, so I've started to assign the diferents cv on track... I saw local cv, but didn't see local trigger to configure.
I've seen you could get a trigger kind signal with the new update for the cv expander... but just wonder if there is a way to configure for Track 1: local cv, local trg, local mod, cv1, cv2, cv3... actually I got all configured except local trg. I thought would be simpler with local trg.
Do you know if is it possible?
Here is another firmware update for the long summerdays.
We are heading to V1.26 which many features, fixes and improvements.
Thanks for everyone who tested with me with the release candidates.
Also the CV16 expander gets also a firmware update which enables some of the new NerdSEQ features. That will follow up in the next days. (You can use already the CV16 firmware V1.2 from the release candidates which didn't change for the final version)
As usual some important information before you update:
- make a backup of your SD Card and especially of your projects
- Old Projects can simply be loaded with the new version
- Firmware updates always work, if it doesn't, then you did something wrong. Check the Firmware update FAQ for some infos.
- No worries, in case of any issues you can always go back to your earlier version!
- I totally can understand if you are disappointed if your long awaited feature request is not included in this update. I really do my best to get much new stuff in the releases and i keep track on all the hundrets of feature requests. I constantly update my 2do list and change priorities depending on many factors. Please read the FAQ in the forum to find out how I work and how I don't work. In the end, I can never please anybody. But I do my best to make it better each time.
Also note: Since the last versions the update will look a bit different around the end of updating. For some people the Progressbar will go back to 0 and some percent. That is totally fine and as long as it says 'Updating Succeed', then everything is fine.
Here are most of the changings / additions:
- enabled and added patch functions for all track types (Midi, Audio, CV16, Trigger16)
- added table and patch names in nerd screen, keyboard editor etc
- added Playback Order which can be used to play a pattern in another order. Some playback order types are:
Forward, Backward, Pingpong, Random, Even/Odd, Spiral, Crab, Drunk etc....Orders can be used to create new patterns.
- changed SCLK (Set Trackclock) to combined command CKPB (includes now Clock, Playback order, Transpose, Swing, Jump)
- fixed wave file loader to allow more wave types
- fixed trigger16 binary value so it can send also FF for all now
- added preview for Trigger 16 columns and drum-matrix. OK plays one and SHIFT+OK plays the row
- fixed tables so a stop table can be chosen from FX or Patches.
- added global trigger delay function which allows to have all triggers delayed if needed. Added trigger delay settings for all track types. Added delay times in milliseconds.
- added random trigger delay settings derived from ranges which does allow easier humanisation of triggers/sequences
- a probability of 0 will now avoid the playback of the probability part
- changed backup situation. Now a backup is automatically created in the backup folder (folder will be generated by itself) and keeps the 10 last files
- replaced 'save with backup' function with a auto-save function. It will auto-save then just before the screensaver starts.
- added new local trigger functions -> Trigger X ticks long. (D0 -> DF)
- fixed possible pattern clone of a ** pattern
- Updated mark mode. SHIFT+cursors will now always change the begin point of the marking and without shift the end points. The start/end points are also displayed in the statusbar.
- marked mode on sequencer screen can now start / launch or stop the selected part, also change of multiple clock and playback orders possible
- stopping a audio track will reset its gate now. (and so also possible connected envelope releases)
- updated pattern screens so they all show the pattern name on every track type
- changed the visible FX when in groove column to the last FX for CV/Gate and Sample
- screensaver now returns to last used screen on return
- fix for automators so a modulator input value is including the automators
- added cut/paste function, so any delete does directly also a copy into clipboard
- fix for return to drum-matrix
- fixed midi for selected track record. Also fix for on-the-fly delete using the table button
- fixed LFO speed for slow LFO (was not fine but quantized before)
- changed OK button in patch screen fires the patch (instead of shift+ok)
- Some graphical changings for current value and patch screen, some visual fixes
- fixed possible crash on external DINSYNC start/stop
- added setting where a new note in the CV16 sequence automatically disables a pure modulator (Enable in CV16 track setup)
- fixed sending CV16 startup values after track assign
- fix for CV16 setup screen draw glitch
- added Trigger16 function to CV16 columns and destinations. NSA and Trigger Output of the Trigger16 Expander can be selected to be played either from the trigger 2 commands (destination) or as the Voltage/MOD value 00-FE (CV16 setup -> destinations)
- added 2 Trigger16 FX for a CV16 track to allow also trigger16 commands initiated from a CV16 FX.
- updated Midi -> CV16 track so if a column is set to be a trigger then it does insert a trigger instead of an envelope. Plays also the trigger on the trigger16 expander.
- fixed possible freeze when loading a Sampleblock which contains a bigger sample
- updated Project and Setup screen to get the same scrolling like the FX selector. Added Page Up/Down Functionality
- fixed possible 'stuck in screensaver' situation when doing a NSA Firmware update
- cursor returning now to the last field in the pattern screen if the last used one was of the same track-type
- fixed midi recording which recorded multiple note-off in mono mode (Internal CV/Gate track), last released key fills in the note off
- A Note Off in a CV/Gate track works now again with and without autogate enabled.
- fixed issue when using Trigger16/CV16 on tracks 7+8 and using the Reset FX functions
- added entering the random ranges screen from the trigger delay random settings using OK
- added simple copy+paste of a row in video expander pattern
- fixed start of screensaver when holding the OK button too long
- table editing update so it matches with the patch editing, fixed statusbar text
- fixed patch pre-listen. OK for current effect and SHIFT+OK for the whole patch (if possible)
- added Midi Program Change pre-listen
Following needs the CV16 update to V1.2:
- CV16 Track-> The modulator Reset function works also with envelopes to reset it (instead of continuing the attack from the current level on restart)
- added basic triggers for the CV16 outputs
- added 11 point calibration for CV16 outputs
And as usual some minor small things that came along the way or needed to be done...
The new firmware is attached here, download it, put it in your firmware folder and update following the usual firmware update instructions.
Don't forget to spread the word, make videos, because that is what's needed to continue adding new features!!
A fancy and silly (as usual) update/release video for the socials will follow up in the next days.
I very much like the new "Import - Export Pattern" feature for the tracks patterns in nerd settings. Its very helpful. I must ask though, is there any chance for an import of track assignment settings? In the future, I imagine setting up i2c channels, midi channels, trigger16 channels, cv16 channels, will end up exhausting by the time you sit down to make music, and since (atleast in my set up, but I imagine others too) things will often be similar in set up, it would be nice to have it be quickly accessible.
Im using the NS with CV16 and More Triggers with an Assimil8or. The A8 has 8 channels, and the NS gives me 16 triggers. However, the A8 allows for 'zones' where you can trigger a different sample on a single channel using CV. Im trying to figure out a good workflow that allows me to utilize the drum-matrix view while also controlling cv16.
Ive not been able to figure out a comfortable way to bring all this together with the expanders.
Question:
Rather than only use 8 triggers of More Trigger and have to modulate CV on another track to select the sample zone on the A8 (requires two tracks playing together in sync, and CV is limited to six outs per track), how might one utilize all 16 triggers, but associate a trigger column with a preset voltage that would be output from a given CV output when that column plays a trigger?
For example, say trigger 8 is triggering a channel on the A8 with a closed hi-sample. The channel is also set up with zones, so a CV on that channel control which sample plays. Lets say closed hi-hat below 0v and an open hi-hat above 0v. The only way to select the zone that plays from the 8th trigger column (as far as I can tell) is to:
1. use FX to control a local cv or mod out (not ideal as those are probably in use and there arent enough anyway)
2. use a second track with CV16 with a pattern playing in parallel (still limited to 6 columns, but we may need up to 8)
Is is possible to instead use trigger 9 on the same channel on the A8, but have a preset voltage be output at the same time from CV16? So trigger 8 and 9 goes to our hi-hat channel, but each comes with a CV as well from CV16. It would be awesome if it could be done in a way that didnt require two tracks...
Its not limited to just the A8 and zones - what about velocity/volume, or any other CV modulation associated with a particular trigger on a particular trigger column. The only way I see is to use multiple tracks. Thats not a bad thing as its allows for some interesting possibilities by 'decoupling' your trigger events from your modulation. However, in my case, or for programming intricate drums/samples, that modulation does need to be tightly coupled to the trigger events.
I know you can control the triggers from CV16 tracks with FX, but thats a bit more cumbersome, as the drum matrix is definitely preferable. Even using the trigger modulator on CV16 instead still leaves you with 6 columns, and youd still need another cv16 track for trigger-speciifc CV.
One other possibility/question:
Is there any way (or plans) to control CV16 outputs from a More Trigger track? Seems you can only do the reverse (triggers from CV16). This would be slightly better, but still - youd be using 8 triggers to try and control more than 8 samples.
Im new to all of these modules and loving them all so far - just trying to figure out an efficient workflow and learn the NS!
so MOD and CV16 lanes have 4096 steps in value, which is wonderfully precise. However, when trying to enter values, using the shift+UpArrow or DownArrow only jumps +- 64 (0x40) steps in value at a time. The result is that it is pretty slow to shift the full range of the outputs.
I was wondering if it would be possible to make the "fast jump" value either A) configurable, and/or B), have a default jump of 512 (0x200) or something similar.
I was wondering if it is somehow possible to create something like a clock divider on the More Triggers 16. Like having the MT16 assigned to one track (1-8) and have 9-16 for simple divisions.
Of course one could set up a trigger 'each' 4th step, 6th step, 8th step etc. This works a long the divisions fit the track length i.e. length 48 (decimal) can fit (/2, /3, /4, /6, /8, /12, /16, /24), which is generally fine, but one needs to set the track length for the whole 'expander', unless you assign the MT16 to two tracks and have a length of 64 on 1-8 and 48 on 9-16.
When looking at triplet divisions, clock speed needs to be considered as well. I'm looking for doing polyrhythms.
Is it feasible with tables maybe? Or did I miss a fairly straight forward function completely?
If you do, do you have the more triggers or more cv expander? I feel like you could make due with just the more CV + other modulators, but maybe im wrong. 16 triggers is a LOT of triggers.
It would be super nice to be able to route a CV input in the automate screen to a parameter for an envelope, for example decay time or release time and so forth.
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